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October 26, 2009
Posted: 1110 GMT

Hey there, everyone...

First of all, Hala continues to be off for most of the week. She'll be back, before you head back to your weekend. Isha is manning the later edition of I-Desk, while Hala is on holiday this week.

Now, for the news - It was a busy and deadly weekend in Iraq and Afghanistan. Starting in Iraq, where the country is mourning the deadliest attacks in two years. Well over 100 people were killed in Baghdad, hundreds more wounded. In Afghanistan, helicopter-related deaths ruled the weekend, as more than a dozen NATO servicemembers, most of them American, were killed. So, what's the solution in either country? For Iraq, the U.S. still plans on pulling out, despite the surge in violence after their forces left small towns in June. In Afghanistan, the opposite plan appears to be in play, with U.S. Pres. Barack Obama considering an increase in boots on the ground. Are these the right courses of action?

Now, for the accused war criminal. Radovan Karadzic refused to appear in court Monday - essentially, boycotting his own war crimes trial at the Hague. Karadzic claims he hasn't had enough time to prepare for his trial. Should the judge force him into court? Or, should he grant more time?

Those are the biggest stories we're following right now at the I-Desk... Of course, if that changes, we'll have the latest for you.

See you then!
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Ella   October 26th, 2009 3:11 pm ET

Hi,

Radovan Karadzic has had enough time to prepare his defence when he was on the run (several years)!!!! Now it´stime to face the court and his destiny as a war criminal.

Falcao   October 26th, 2009 5:57 pm ET

Hello,

It could be added one more interesting news at the I-Desk: the allegations by the UN commission that Israeli military and Hamas, commited war crimes during last Gaza offensive.

Regards,

Nwulu chinedu .p   October 26th, 2009 8:04 pm ET

Karadzic should stop asking for more time because he had already gotton enough. He should face the court.those that kill by gun will die by gun.

Resh   October 27th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

He should not be allowed to have more time. He decided to refuse counsel and represent himself...then this is a consequence. It's a stalling tactic and he should not be allowed to further abuse the law and what it stands for..

Eric   October 27th, 2009 3:38 pm ET

I can understand the angry comment by one of the victims, who said that while he was held, he had no choice as to where he could or would be, as any wrong move would have him shot. He said that all freedom to move ought to be taken from Karadzic. The anger about Karadzic showing contempt for the court after the accusation of so many crimes is completely understandable.

I think the difficult point is that there is an international court agreement that states that the accused can not be forced to appear. Possibly a doubtful rule, but it is there none the less. It would take a lot of negotiating time to change it. Trying to change it would also buy time for mr Karadzic.

So, I just look at it this way: even when he does not appear, he is still being held in custody. If he won't defend himself, bad luck for him. Then he can never get himself released either. He would be held forever without any proper trial or lawful conviction, but I do not have the impression that proper use of the law is what ever bothered the man himself.

As long as he is behind bars, I am fine.

jean-Michel Clément   October 27th, 2009 6:11 pm ET

The news that Karadzic refuses to appear in court makes one feel that one is in the midst of a bad dream.
The man should be brought to the tribunal in chains and ideally should be shot after sentencing. We are so very democratic, it makes me wonder.
Perhaps this is the right way to do, after all ?
I am not convinced, These people have killed thousands and today they swear that they are not guilty. Due process ! We will never learn.

john murphy   October 27th, 2009 6:14 pm ET

Speaking on the wars: you know there are going to be acccidental deaths in any war I can see the populess gettihg mad at the ones doing it. Democarcy and freedom come with a high price in some cases. this is the time for the people of Iraq & Afghanistan. people who just want to live in peace to help the armys from making mistakes you yourselves have to ask wheather you want to live in fear of thugs or have the life you want take up arms against the insurgents if they take over you your children and your childrens children and so on. Will live in fear everyday of your lives look at those Demons in iran do you honestly think the people want to be prisoners in there own country. I don't but the so called leaders keep them in unwanted fear. and I have never in my life seen a clergymen want to kill as much as these DEMONS do they are not pro life they are killers of your very own families. I just can't understand why you don't want to help the people who are truely their for you. Its Great Allies in your countries giving up everthing they have at home to help your Countries. You have to find the faith and courage to put down these DEMONS. You have never felt freedom and maybe if you really got a taste of freedom you would never go back to letting thugs rule you ever again for your vote to really mean something gives you such a good feeling it can't be explained I'm just a person like any other regular person like you. I don't live in fear of my government because they are there trying to make life better for us. While your so called leaders fight with the world and kill the people their suposed to protect and make better lives for and no one has to tell you this you know it already so help us help you. thank you pass freedom on

Paddy Singh   October 27th, 2009 7:34 pm ET

Iraq and Afghanistan are getting worse, and victory seems more than a hundred miles away. Has anyone realised that in Saddam's time one found maybe 10 – 15 bodies a month. Since the war it has been scores a day. He was a distator but then almost everyone in Africa is one. And the west has supported dictators at their peril. Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9:11 and he remains free, while a secular dictator has been hanged in Iraq. Once the Americans leave, which they will like they did in Vietnam, all hell will break loose there. And Afghanistan? If 500,000 Russian troops could not defeat the Mujhaidin, can 100,000 odd Allied troops and another 100,000 trainee Afghan soldiers defeat the Taliban? The worse is yet to come

RH/LTC   October 27th, 2009 8:05 pm ET

Karadizic and Ratko Maladic hopefully will be given the same fate as those boys and men murdered...he should be forced into the court..he may not have nothing to say..but, nonetheless, the court process must go on...

He is guilty..and hopefully the court will take longer than it did with Slobo...who died after several years of court testimony and due process.

B   October 27th, 2009 11:43 pm ET

Yes- he should be. But the Yankees cannot cry wolf if they do not also send Bush+Cheney in to the same court.

Yan (ex Dutch man)   October 28th, 2009 2:54 am ET

this whole tribunal in the Hague is a disgrace. Holland of all places is a lawless country. Karadizic will be out of jail in no time there.
to answer your question. If Mr Karadizic doesn't feel like appearing in court he doesn't have to. Ha ha what a joke is Holland.

Harry Tintner   October 28th, 2009 10:16 am ET

definitely yes. a million times yes

what kind of option did his killers leave to the young boys and men who were executed in the back, their hands tied up?

too bad the firing squad has been abandoned in non barbarian countries : he does not even deserve the bullet he would get.

doa   October 28th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

A war criminal Karadzic is only trying to buy the time since the Tribunal is going to close in 2012, or so. So he is hoping to get tried before the state Court of BiH, counting on the fact the Serb judges, as a part of the Court, are being hugely influenced by the RS Serb politicians.

Pius Ogum   October 28th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

I believe that, as long as there is substantial evidence, that he did commit these war crimes, he should be treated as a crimminal and as so, be forced to court. If he is truly guilty of these crimes, what he is doing now, is making a complete mockery of the judicial system

Harrison   October 28th, 2009 4:36 pm ET

Yes, indeed, Americans do need to send Bush, Cheney, Rove Condoleeza Rice, and the leader of the CIA to the Hague for trial before they can comment on Karadzic because their comments reek of hypocrisy.

AldinR   October 28th, 2009 7:06 pm ET

Karadzic said he is going to prove that he is not guilty...well I wonder why he went into hiding for all this time...He needs to be forced into the courtroom..and he needs to face all the mother who are still searching across Bosnia for the remains of their children..Some of the war criminals only get 8-10 years but they killed dozens to thousands of people ( kids / women)..All you have to do is youtube his name and youll see the crimes he was involved in...
But lets be real the world does not care about Bosnia or Muslims..I give it a couple of months and Karadzic will die (natural causes) or this thing will drag on until he dies.

Hugo   October 28th, 2009 7:47 pm ET

Any man put on trial should have the right to defend himself to the utmost of his abilitites. Delaying trial by a few days will not alter the result. In the end we know he will go to jail and all his stalling tactics will be of no avail.

Filipe   October 28th, 2009 8:41 pm ET

Why should anyone really care??

He's in jail. He will never be freed if he boycotts his own trial-- let the trial proceed-let him rot behind bars for the rest of life whether he attends the trial or not ! Screw him!!!

Nacha   October 29th, 2009 7:16 am ET

Stop talking and reporting on this person. He does not deserve the time or energy. You only bring all the memories back. All we should do is move on and let the court do its job.

peter stephen   October 29th, 2009 9:06 am ET

You only have to turn on the news to see that things just don’t seem to be
working in the world right now. War, recession, stabbings are commonplace
things that we hear about every day.
So what has happened? And what can we do about it?
When faced with global issues the Iraq War it is all too easy to feel overwhelmed by what is happening and to say “there is nothing that I can do”. I believe that a lot of the problems we are experiencing in the world are due to a feeling of separation,

peter stephen from
Tanzania
AIESECer

Samar Toor   October 29th, 2009 10:52 am ET

Karadzic took his own time to plan out the mass genocide of innocent muslims residing in serbia.If anyone of those young victim would have been dead i am sure there would have been peace and more tolerance in the society in serbia.Well Karadzic sholud have known that this is The REAL WORLD he was in and that such acts would surely later on in his life get back at him.'what goes around comes aorund' so for Mr. Karadzic it is time up for excuses and face the war tribunal judges and admit of what Human right atrocities he ordered then when he was in power.Only a person who is not human can go to the extent of violating human rights and he has been one of the violators.He is one vicious man who knows his end is near and he can for sure anticipate and imminently knows his Verdict is guilty as charged!

Ruth   October 29th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

The choice is not between whether to force Karadzic to court or allow more time for preparation. The trial should simply continue without him present in the courtroom, since he is refusing to be there. Facilities can be provided for him to watch from his cell, and counsel should be finally imposed on him, just as counsel should have been imposed on Vojislav Seselj, another ICTY accused, a long time ago.

What Karadzic is doing is obstructing justice and it needs to be stopped. The court needs to make it clear to him in no uncertain terms. Karadzic has learned from the experience of his other prisonmates such as Milosevic and Seselj that delaying and obstructing justice pays. This is the judges' mistake. In order to regain credibility and public confidence, the trial chamber has to regain total control over the proceedings.

Jack   October 30th, 2009 12:23 am ET

Put Bush, Cheney, Blair and all their cronies on trial next to Karadzic, for their crimes against humanity than I am sure Karadzic will see the light and show up for the charade believing he will have a fair "trial" 'till then why should he?

Rite   October 30th, 2009 5:21 am ET

If the international laws are for the common interest of the human being in this planet, then Bush and Cheney should also be sent to the internationla court. Why Karadzic? if he had a strong army the won the war quickly (like US is Iraq), I don't think he would be in court this time. The sad thing is that our world is still dominated by the rules of jungle. Winner takes all.

Onigorom   October 30th, 2009 6:36 am ET

Who cares if he shows up or not. After he is sentenced he will disappear from public eye anyway. But what worries me are some comments on this forum who demand him to be killed. It shows how many perverts are around in our democracies that are as revengeful and blood thirsty as the Balkan war criminals they feel entitled to judge. Average people can become 'monsters' – this is what the wars of the 20th century should teach us. Just keep on reading...

Lloyd   October 30th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

Answer on question is hell YES! Problem of course is in the judges in the Hague. How can almost the same level Serbian war criminal Biljana Plavsic be liberated when she is responsible least for 90% of the killings, rapes, huge destructions like Milosevic, Karadzic, Mladic or any other higher Serbian politicians in that time? Well, we must "thank" for that to Sweden government and especially Swedish minister for foreign affairs and current chairman of the EU, Carl Bildt which have some private business interests in Serbia.
When I read about how Serbian war criminals reponsible for tens of thousands killings in mostly Bosnia, gets "joke" sentenences, I ask my self, what is purpose of the ICTY court in Hague, to punish war criminals, or to protect them and Serbia?

Biljana Plavsic was in third level (almost the same) of the making decision in Serbia, just after Milosevic and Karadzic, and she gets 11 years of the open prison in the Sweden, she was liberated after 7 years in prison? What, she was robbed local market for $1000, and not someone in group of the most responsible Serbs for 300 000 deads, two million refugees, masive rapes, destruction bigger than $200 billions and etc? Shame!

Verne   October 30th, 2009 8:38 pm ET

I recently watched a BBC program on the last of the Nazis. It brought out a lot of questions as to whether or not these 90 year olds should be prosecuted. I say yes. They should not be rewarded with not being prosecuted just because they outlive someone's will to pursue justice. Same goes for him. Slovo beat it by dying. Too bad. Hold them all accountable for their actions or inaction to stop these injustices from continuing all around the world. While I'm at it, might I suggest that there are a number of other fugitives loose all over the world after having perpretrated similar crimes. Get em all and let God sort out where they end up.

Juma   October 31st, 2009 9:07 pm ET

We still counting them and it is the right time to put them in trial. Lets put all of them in trial whether they want or boycott. It will be lesson for those who have tendency to commit similar action in their mind and believe me they are a few. Karadic time is come.

gbaj   November 1st, 2009 3:57 am ET

He should be sent to the death row. EU just extends his life and he does not deserve it.

ivan b.   November 1st, 2009 10:41 am ET

yes !!! and put an orange colour overalls on him !!! This is a typical European court, what a joke , conducting trial and the accused refusing to turn up . This should be on the Comedy channel . What about his accomplice R.Mladic?
Is he still enjoying a Serbian goverment protection ?

Chris Pereira   November 1st, 2009 12:09 pm ET

The UN and the world stood by and did absolutely nothing when helpless women and children were duped into believing this animal Karadic and his henchmen in systematically deprive them of their fathers, sons, brothers, nephews and driven from their houses which the rest of us in this world were mostly blessed with. He can't now deny them the sheer justice they so deserve and the world must be responsible to be strong in upholding the morality it denied these helpless fellow human beings. Karadic can not be lef to be able to refuse facing his shameful cruelty which he caused and is in denial.

Paddy Singh   November 1st, 2009 2:07 pm ET

Does the ICJ realize how much money is being wasted by these time delaying tactics? The trial should start in his absence, the witnesses examined and sentencing passed. We don't seem to hear of what is happening in Charles Taylor's case and again a waste of money as the case grags on.

maya rutherford   November 2nd, 2009 4:57 pm ET

With or without Karadzic, the trial must begin! The families and loved ones of those who suffered have long been waiting. Now,I dont think its fair for them to be given a whimsical and selfish reason that the defendant is not ready. If the ICJ does not act on this, where then is justice?

Jacques van Hoof-Fache   November 3rd, 2009 9:29 am ET

He is known to be a war criminal, so he must be forced to appear in court and must be punished for his war crimes.

hafidh   November 3rd, 2009 1:12 pm ET

He can't escape no matter the daly, he has and he will face trial.

dancing shoes   November 3rd, 2009 2:43 pm ET

as far as I am concerned, this would be his 1st and last call; immediately after, a squad in the backyard, later transformed into an open gent's room.

oreste assereto   November 3rd, 2009 3:33 pm ET

He is surely going to be convicted , possibly for life. So what is the purpose of all the show.

Nate   November 3rd, 2009 11:01 pm ET

Absolutely – he should be forced to face justice. A part of the process is the trial where the families of the victims can actually SEE the accused in front of the judge. Of course, he has the right to defend himself and tell his side of the story, but hey, he has had 15 years to think about what happened. They should not postpone this until he has some heart attack before the court's final decision.

Kat   November 4th, 2009 2:09 am ET

Hi,
Karadzic should be either forced into court or immediately forced into having a lawyer to represent him. After thirteen years on the run, he has proven his guilt by not only being an obvious figure during the genocide, but also doing his best to avoid the authorities. Its time he has a reality check and get face his fate.

Richard Dartnell   November 4th, 2009 8:34 am ET

Justice delayed is Justice denied. Why was in hiding before being caught and what did he want to hide. The sooner the trial gets started and is done with the better. Hopefully this will be another deterence for future people who want to take the law into their own hands without a thought for the victims or the consequences.lets not wait force if need be to come to court each day when it is in session

Sophocles   November 4th, 2009 11:35 am ET

Whom are we kidding folks? What we saw so far is the hunting of one side and the hypocritic blind eye on the other. The ones that should be brought to justice BY FORCE are the presidents and the prime ministers of the those countries that intervened to create a sad mess out of which they calculated they might profit in the long run. Balkans easy way out does not exist and its impossible to solve unless Masters keep balances – what was done has created another open wound, results of which remain to be seen.
God bless all these big mouths, that from the safety of their homes arrogantly ignore the real facts and problems in the area – bragging of the stupid "heroism" their armies showed via bombardments.
Let those newly sprung out countries evolve and in no time flood Europe and the US with drugs, prostitution, money laundering and arms smuggling.
Big Bravo and applause – ENCORE winners!

ivan b.   November 5th, 2009 8:23 pm ET

Just reading the latest news..Karadzic trial has been adjourned till March next year . Wow, its a party time again...and the Comedy channel continues...

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